Talk:Heretic (video game)

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Three questions:

• When was Hexen released?

(I should mention that Hexen II was released after Hexen and before Heretic II)

• What engine did Heretic II use?

• What is the legality of including a Heretic screenshot here.

Samboy 02:33, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

• Well, the HeXen release date is mentioned in it's article already.

• Also the Heretic II article states that it used the Quake engine.

• Screenshots are actually a form of citing but could also be justified as fair use. Just look at other articles like Doom, how they handle this.

--Lightkey 05:48, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Nope

• Hexen was released on halloween 95
• Heretic II used a modified Quake2 engine, focused on particles, hitboxes and the new .fm model format
• Fair use possibly.

Also I've fixed the release date of Heretic. CheapAlert 03:12, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

I've not been at this article for a while, but to my suprise one "Demon!" changed back Field of Judgement to Arena of Judgement. I've just run Heretic again to verify -- it IS Field of judgement, at least as far as i can see. Anyone a different experience? -- De Zeurkous (irc@zgsnet.xs4all.nl), Mon Mar 20 06:14:47 UTC 2006

I expanded the enemy list to create seperate descriptions for each enemy. Eventually, this could be broken off into its own article like the Doom and Hexen enemy lists, but for now I think it is short enough to stay here. I'll leave that up to the judgment of others. -- Danarchy 19:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I also added both an artifacts section and a section for the other items in the game. Perhaps they should be combined, though I think artifacts are unique enough to be on their own. -- Danarchy 20:54, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

It seems to me that the article is beginning to turn into a walkthrough/faq for the gameplay rather than an entry about the game itself. Perhaps an overhaul is in order? Tani unit 02:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

About Cheats

Someone might want to add that if you use Doom cheats, funny things happen in this game. For example, iddqd (GOD mode) instantly kills you with the saying "Trying to cheat, heh? For that you die!". Using idkfa or any others that give you weapons in Doom, this game will take all of your weapons away and leave you with just a staff saying "Cheaters like you don't deserve weapons". --Kage 21:48, 02 April 2006

E5M8

Pardon me but map level E5M8 is "Field of Judgement" not "Arena of Judgement" Stephen Howe

Symbol

What is the origin of the pitchfork symbol, what does it mean?

I think it's the symbol of D'sparil. If you watch http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/Heretic/video/x2w8yz_heretice1m1_videogames, the guy commenting explains it.

Recent mass deletions

Vikrant Phadkay recently made some deletions in this article that seem to take out valuable information. Is there a previous concensus somewhere on removing information about games? I'd like to be pointed to it. Until then, though, I'm going to re-instate the information. -Phoenixrod 16:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Some of the deleted information is available at strategywiki (now that I fixed the link), but I'm still not sure why it's not in this article. -Phoenixrod 16:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Platforms

Previously, this game was listed as having been released on Mac and RISC OS. However, I was not able to find any solid evidence of this other than the appearance of unofficial third-party source ports. If someone can provide actual evidence that the game was published for these platforms, please do so. Ham Pastrami (talk) 22:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I can confirm that Heretic was never released on the Mac. It only got onto the Mac in 1999 after the source code was released and a guy called Brad Oliver ported it over. http://heretic.mac.findmysoft.com/ Takethepain (talk) 16:26, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Correction to plot end

I found a mistake with the description of the ending - as stated in the end of Episode 4 (and in the source code), "you thought you would return to your own world after d'sparil died, but his final act banished you to his own plane." This is reflected at the beginning of Heretic II, but I'm not sure the flow of the paragraph I changed is correct. Can someone review it just to be sure? --76.10.151.22 (talk) 23:56, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Source Ports

Are we allowed to list source ports? If so I can write up a list here for submission. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewwan1980 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

"Reception" section is heavily flawed

I was confused by the game having allegedly had a "mixed" reception and an aggregated score of only 62 on Game Rankings, which is contradictory to the reviews I remember from back in the day. So I checked the source and it turns out that for whatever reason Game Rankings only had a ridiculously small sample size of three reviews for Heretic, the worst one of which (50/100) is from 2001. It goes without saying that as such the summary "Heretic received mixed reviews" based on Game Rankings alone, is factually wrong.

I am not sure how to appropriately improve the article, however. The most honest thing I can think of is to omit Game Rankings and use more individual reviews from 1994-1995. European reviews would also have to be treated carefully since some of them may be from the year of the game's heavily delayed European release, when Heretic would already get unfavourably compared to the much newer and far more advanced Duke Nukem 3D. --F4LL0UT (talk) 19:38, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

You're correct that three reviews is too small a sample size to justify using an aggregate score; a while back there was a consensus that aggregate scores should only be mentioned if they're based on four or more reviews. The GameRankings score has since been removed. Bear in mind, though, that the reviews of Heretic you read likely represent an equally small or even smaller sample size.

I'm not clear on what you're saying about European reviews. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but it sounds like you're saying that we should omit negative reviews for Heretic solely because they are negative, an approach which would be in blatant violation of WP:NPOV. Martin IIIa (talk) 02:32, 24 November 2024 (UTC)