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Possible lack of etiquette in my addition

I have added a long paragraph to announce the discovery of four original manuscripts regarding Squanto's arrival in Spain. Due to my lack of Wikipedia skills, the source article is shown twice, once in the reference section and one in secondary sources, because I have not found a way to link directly from the body of the article to the secondary sources, where I believe the original article needs to appear, because it contains the location of the primary sources. Which by the way are the only truly primary sources found to date. I would very much appreciate if someone could teach me how to avoid this lack of etiquette.

PS: In case anyone is interested, I am working with Ms. Ruiz on a second English language article explaining the findings in full detail, which I will contribute in due course. AGA2024 (talk) 20:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 September 2024

It has been proposed in this section that Squanto be renamed and moved to Tisquantum.

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Squanto → Tisquantum – This is considered to be Tisquantum's real name, is used throughout the article, and has a more neutral, less Western-biased persepctive. Ezra Fox (talk) 18:59, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The article already seems already to prefer Tisquantum. Makes sense to align the title with this preference too. //Lollipoplollipoplollipop::talk 09:13, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. As above. 73.184.232.224 (talk) 15:54, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:26, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alright I don't edit Wikipedia so I don't know how to close these things but I know when I've lost a battle. But jeez this makes me realize how awful it would be for me to actually try to start editing Wikipedia in significant ways. Like, I don't think you're wrong, I think your interpretation is completely valid. But the Wikipedia rules are so long with so many caveats you can literally argue anything about anything. Like I could point out that according to Wikipedia "notable circumstances under which Wikipedia often avoids a common name for lacking neutrality include the following: Colloquialisms where far more encyclopedic alternatives are obvious." Or I could say the "name most typically used in reliable sources is generally preferred" and that is trending toward Tisquantum. Or I could say neutrality in the article title must also be considered. This is all true, but of course there's dozens of counterarguments one could add to this, because as I said, Wikipedia rules are so long with so many caveats you can literally argue anything about anything. Anyway, this has just been a valuable experience that has reminded me to never ever try to edit Wikipedia in any serious capacity. But I think Wikipedia is a very important useful site, so thank you for your service, it seems Goddamn miserable. Wish you the best! :) Ezra Fox (talk) 04:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME; compare Pocahontas, Powhatan, etc. --Quuxplusone (talk) 20:25, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as above per WP:COMMONNAME. As the article notes, "Tisquantum, more commonly known as Squanto...". --Hammersoft (talk) 21:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]